Working 40 hours a week is hard work

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Trump is in power not Bernie. So why are people working 40+ hours a week and living in poverty?

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@Bluedaisy Because they are paid what they are worth, dishwashers cannot claim the same salary as carpenters or auto mechanics. Those people are living well.

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@Bluedaisy For one, eight years of Obama.

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@Bluedaisy The only way anyone working 40 hours a week is not living above poverty level is if they are trying to pay off huge debts that they chose to take on.

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@oldshuntr If you read, "The Working Poor", which addresses this problem across the U.S., it's actually a little more complex than that. But there's definitely a group of folks who this describes. The other groups I tend to classify in the "There but for the grace of God go I" category, where one serious setback sends them into a "death spiral" from which they never really climb out. I was nearly one of those folks, early on in life, but ended up as a lucky survivor. Those other group(s) are folks who've taken on involuntary debt (medical mishaps or familial obligations) or who get laid off through no fault of their own and amass significant debt while they try to find other employment, and the people who simply continue to live in areas where the cost of living is so outrageous--i.e. large cities--that working 40 hours a week is barely--or not--subsistence for the cheapest lifestyle possible. But since they can't move (too costly, no support group) they remain where they are under crushing circumstances.
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@TRCIII If someone is working 40 hours a week, there is no way they are at Poverty level. They would have to be making less than $6 an hour. In the US, min wage is $7.25

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@oldshuntr Well, there's a difference between being at the poverty level (which is an artificial number and a national average, and doesn't take into account local costs of living, or how many people you're supporting with your paycheck) and "living in poverty" (i.e. actually being POOR). There are places in America where the cost of living is low, and people who are earning at the "poverty level" are doing okay--better than okay. And there are places where working two jobs and 80 hour weeks are not enough to rent an apartment that shouldn't be condemned by the fire marshal, and definitely won't support you, your spouse and three school-age kids. Those people are "living in poverty"--not earning at the poverty level. That's not even counting the people who don't make minimum wage...because not everyone gets paid a straight wage or the "minimum" supposedly allowed by law.
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@Bluedaisy one factor is illegal immigration is holding down the wages

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LMAO anyone who thinks working 40 hours a week is too hard is nuts. Try working 14-16 hours a day 6 days a week from March to November every year.

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I wonder how many people in " poverty " have big screen tv's, smart phones, costly tattoos, sneakers and such. Add to that their tax returns are far more than they paid, which is a bit of an equalizer which is never mentioned. I've been poor, I've been upper middle class, poor again then comfortable. I started working for $1.80 and hour I think. That was at my first job after my paper route and cleaning and smoking salmon behind Old Vic's Fruit Stand. Those were the days.

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@Bread&Circuses A lot of them smoke also. Even legally it is no cheap habit.

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@oldshuntr I remember when cigarettes went from 25 cents to 35 cents in the machine at the grocery store. That's when I started riding my bike to the Indian reservation and paying $2.50 per carton.

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@Bread&Circuses LOL The price is actually pretty close to the same, but the tax is unbelievable! smiley

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@oldshuntr When Obama was elected, a six ounce can of Top tobacco cost $9.95. $25 before he left office. It's still $25 today.
At the same Smoke Shack on the same reservation. I picked some up just this week. They have the best free calendars. smiley

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