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THE LORD OF THE FLIES Doppelganger (insert umlaut) is a dead ringer for BARACK "BEELZEBUB" OBAMA.

This is a MUST READ as most of us have forgotten just how Satanic Anti-Christ Jr. and his Trannie "wife" actually were--with the borrowed adorable daughters (a transsexual cannot give biological birth, by the way).

I mean, I almost forgot where LUCIFER HELD HIS RESIDENCY THOSE 8 GODFORSAKEN YEARS.

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And why are the flies so attracted to him. One thing he was good at is catchin flies. I saw it on CNN.... smiley

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@1FRAC1 The article enumerates MANY INSTANCES of BARRY SOETERO'S uncanny (preternaturally inhuman) fly-paper capabilities. Or perhaps it was the rot of everything he ever said being a complete KENYAN CONFABULATION.

You'd be agog at what the LUCIFERIAN PRISON PLANET WE'RE ACTUALLY INCARCERATION- NATION(ED) IN.

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@Tamperer71 I know much, UN is founded on LUCIFERIAN principles. Many tunnels under DC. They can scamper like the diseased rats. Trump is surrounded by em...

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@1FRAC1 Indeed--see me explanata below to our dear sheep @ADRIAN88. IGNORANCE REMAINS BLISS.

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@1FRAC1 ..........................THE ILLUMIATI TRIANGLE IN LOCUS OF NWO CONTROL

tHE vATICAN (tHE jESUIT bLACK pOPE)


tHE cITY OF lONDON (FINANCIAL CONTROL)


wASHINTON dc (MILITARY ASSURANCE GUARANTEES THAT THE OTHER 2 REMAIN PROTECTED AND UNTOUCHABLE)

For the uninitiated: TRIANGULATE B*TCH!! !! !!


These 3 entities are sovereign states unto themselves--not at all beholden to the nations surrounding them.
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And some think we actually exist in a republican representative democracy---ROTFLMFAO
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@Tamperer71 I am also having trouble with the selection of the Illuminati triangle.

The Vatican, I fully understand as it is a fully sovereign state, recognized as such by the UN.

The City of London, not so much. If we are talking about absolute financial control, then by definition we are talking about the New York stock exchange, with an equity market capitalization over 19 trillion U.S. dollars. It is so big and powerful that its capitalization exceeds NASDAQ, London Stock Exchange, and Tokyo Stock Exchange combined.

Then there is the issue of the Washington DC. Washington was never the true center of power in global politics. Historically and realistically it was always Jerusalem. In a world of political, economic and military superpowers, Israel remains the one in the very top of the food chain. It is also a very fitting example if one considers the origins and purpose of Zionism.

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@Mandale You're both not listening and sorely lacking in imagination the extents the elites have gone through.

Do you actually think that which they report and tell us is even a shade of the truth?

Money may talk, but wealth whispers.

The ROTHCHILDS ALONE HAVE AMASSED OVER $700 TRILLION DOLLAS!!

THEY ARE SO SPREAD OUT AND GLOBALIST MULTINATIONAL IT'S HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ACTUALLY AUDIT THEM.

Rothchilds also own Reuters/AP/The Economist. They dictate international monetary policy and operate out of The City of London--not beholden to the nation outside of them. They are also the international bankers that own and operate the federal reserves of all but 3 or 4 nations still operating on the gold standard AND not on fiat speculation. They fund both sides of all wars and that's we we are at war with syria, libya, iraq, iran, yemen, etc.,...I could keep going.
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@Tamperer71 I am well aware of the Rothchilds and their extent of wealth and control over the global economies. Which is exactly my point. People like these, do not operate from a single hub as this would make them vulnerable to economic fluctuations. To be better shielded they would have to operate simultaneously from all the economic hubs so when they lose money from one, they would gain ten fold from the others.

I didnt skip the point of the Military center of Washington. Quite the opposite. Israel is the only nation on earth that has openly attacked the US during the 6 day war and has received no retribution. Quite the contrary in fact. The event was dismissed as an accident by the US which was a first as the US has a long history of retaliation over any kind of hostile event.

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@Mandale No argument there- israel owns us; we are the zionists b**ch.

i absolutely despise zionist israel--but that's all they'll ever be jooish nazis.

I take issue with your referring to the international bankers in justifying their terms/policies/globalism, and resulting destruction of people, ethnicity, religions, creeds, economies and national as well as individual sovereignty. There's s no justification for any of it and the implicit end result of infinite growth is the utter destruction of the human race and their usurping of that which remains.

You elevate and rationalize for these literal vampyres not realizing you are a useless eater to them. Google agenda 21. They ultimately want us all dead.

Ergot, ultimately, without the raising of mass consciousness and overthrowing the globalist/zionists--we happily March toward our graves.

You can't say you don't see the globe collapsing before our very eyes--no hyperbole there whatsoever.
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@Tamperer71 If I may, I do not justify their means to an end. Quite the contrary. I can however get into their mindset if I remove social and moral inhibitions that are the basis of our society. And if these are non applicable factors, the playbook is pretty straightforward. There are no sides there. There is only profit and control. And I am well aware that I am useless to them. Although I would disagree with your conclusion that they want us all dead. That wouldnt be compatible with the playbook as we are the source of profit and control. You cant extinguish the very source of your existence as you will also cease to exist.

Anyways, I also did enjoy our interaction. Personal attacks over personal beliefs are entirely pointless in my opinion. Discussing the differences is a much more rewarding endeavor. smiley

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Looking very much like BARRY SOETERO, aka B'HUSSEIN'O, HAS REVERTED BACK TO HIS DEVILISH ORIGINS, eh?

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uuuuuhhh hahah maaaaaaan you cant ALL be that crazy...really? REALLY REALLY?
you believe in the DEVIL???? ( ah well i could have guessed so, as a Trumpist you need to do so to qualify..) Guys if you are ALL pathological handicapped that is no fun.
1Frac1 seems to believe in tunnels directly coming from (democart hell).
CAN you hear yourself? batsh*t crazy, lol
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@Adrian88 What you don't get is that it doesn't matter whether you or I believe in the devil--the fact is that the NWO/UN/ENTIRE EXISTING GLOBAL SYSTEM OF ANYTHING WHATSOEVER SIGNIFICANT--is built around the globalists/technocrats/vatican/zionists Luciferian beliefs and convictions thereof in their historically successful domination of the planet since time immemorial..

Satan's greatest achievement is to have convinced mankind he doesn't exist. @ADRIAN88--i was once you until I did my research and lifted the veil. I'm almost jealous of your naivete and ignorance of the actual scaffolding of reality. Do some impartial research or remain asleep with the other sheeple.

The world is not ruled by laws and men--but by symbols and sigils.

REALITY DOESN'T REQUIRE YOUR BELIEFS TO ACTUALLY ENTANGLE A HELLA LOT OF NEFARIOUS EXISTENCE. eh,...?

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@Tamperer71 Please forgive me for interjecting again. Also please forgive my ignorance in the subject matter.

You state that "ANYTHING WHATSOEVER SIGNIFICANT--is built around the globalists/technocrats/vatican/zionists Luciferian beliefs and convictions thereof in their historically successful domination of the planet"

I am wondering therefore, that if global domination is the key denominator between vatican and luciferian beliefs and convictions, doesnt that put them in exactly the same position? Absolute domination over anything different is an evil undertaking no matter the origin being good or evil. And if the result is always evil whats the difference between good and evil?

I dont know if that makes sense. Just a thought.

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@Adrian88 evil is evil no matter what you want to call it. You are a fool

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smiley RIGHT--because the government would never do that to us...Please, but may I ask what flavour KOOL-AID you been imbibing.

DEPROGRAM AND UN-INDOCTRINATE YOURSELF MAN!! !! !! I speak from heartfelt love and concern for my fellow brethren--we will all remain in the dark if we don't AWAKEN TO CONSCIOUS PRESENCE AND SHIRK THE DIVISIONAL INTER=GENERATIONAL SHACKLES
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Or just stick to emojis as an explanatory fiction for life.

The choice is yours completely. Just don't blame me when in the following reincarnation you are repeating THIS life here on our PRISON PLANET.

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@Adrian88 I don't believe in religion but some of the smartest people in history did.

Nothing wrong with having a belief in something that draws you comfort...like Trump Derangement Syndrome smiley smiley

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@SirMarcusKek you know...we have a saying in aviation: "everybody is an atheist until the plane is going down" smiley smiley

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If the foo sh*ts . . .

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@Bread&Circuses ??? huh!!!

OhKay--I just got your word play... smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley


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@Tamperer71 If the shoe fits, wear it means, if something has all of the characteristics of a thing, it probably is that thing. More specifically, when a person has certain behaviors consistent with [unflattering label], then they should not object because they have been described that way. I paraphrase as If the foo sh*ts . . .

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@Bread&Circuses yes

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My next line after questioning is that I GOT THE WORD PLAY...lol--you're not talking to @ADRIAN88 in this instance.

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did you ever answer me in chat??????

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@Tamperer71 I don't think so, what was the message to which you're referring ?

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@Bread&Circuses Scroll back to my CROOKED, CROOKED HITLERRY: CONGENITAL LIAR AND PROUD OF IT post--One of the KILL-KLINTONS ARKANCIDES FOLLOWED A COLUMBO STORYLINE TO THE LETTER!!!!!!. I think I died an thougjht of you in your avatar!!!!!!


rotlmfao--not so funny for the victims of ARKANCIDE, I fear.... smiley
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oh well, CHEERS MATEY
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Gosh I do so lopve ANIMOJIS!!!!!!!

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@Bread&Circuses smiley smiley You know that this applies both ways, right? And in this particular case, it does seem fitting entirely in this news post smiley

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Rules for Radicals By Saul Alinsky - 1971

Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism...

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@Bread&Circuses BRAVO
BRAVURA
TRUTH TO POWER
ENLIGHTENMENT
FACTS
UNFORTUNATE REALITY
STANDING OVATION


Like the vampyre--you have to invite the evil in and sell your soul to succeed. THE INVOCATION OF CHRIST BANISHES DEMONIC ENTITIES. I believe that with all my heart and soul.

Thank you for the quote--putting it at the top' o' me reading list!! !! !!

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@Tamperer71 Maaaan Tamperer you ARE completely nuts! in a way i respect that...thats so far off anything else..THE INVOCATION OF CHRIST BANISHES DEMONIC ENTITIES...hahahahahaa absilutely great stuff. Now seriously….get help

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@Adrian88 I'd like to thank you @ADRIAN88--because of you & TP & box--I'll no longer be dignifying ignorant trolling with any response. STAND UNDER THE WEIGHT OF--AND IN THE SHADOWS OF YOUR NON-SEQUITURS.
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AMON RA

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@Tamperer71 "THE INVOCATION OF CHRIST BANISHES DEMONIC ENTITIES."

I am having trouble with the absolute nature of this statement. If that was the case, there would be no Evil to begin with. Yet we are taught of the equilibrium between good and evil, with temporal fluctuations in history that persist until the equilibrium is established once again.

On the humorous side, if the absolute prevalence of good vs evil was definite, the movie "Exorcist" would have been limited to a 5 minute youtube video smiley

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@Mandale I was referring specifically to interdimensional demons, that either abduct or take possession of humans.

Certain beings some have misnomered as "aliens" are actually just those demons.

Those who claim to have escaped such CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE 4TH AND 5TH KIND--did so by invoking Christ.

Not quite sure how one would fare with the remaining daemons of hell.

Who said good had the prevalence?...or close to an even keel for that matter??

The older I get, the more multi-spectral I discover evil to be. At its base--pure chaos and negativity.

Neither of us can actually qualify nor quantify the eternal forms thereof, now can we?

The magnitudes and sheer volume of evil aren't matters much to be sniffing at--karma and fate have twisted humours in my experience per which to set one's perspective in alignment out of mockery and distortion.

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@Tamperer71 If we are to discuss inter-dimensional beings abducting or even possessing humans, then by definition we are talking about predatory and parasitic organisms. The definition "demon" would only attribute their existence on a certain base of beliefs. Yet if their actions of abducting or possessing are to be attributed to anything, it can only be by their own design and purpose. Their need to act in such a way. Wild animals are also known for their predatory and possessive attributes. Lions kill humans for food, a worm gets into the brain of a shy, shade-loving snail, compelling it to crawl out of its safe home and into the open where it gets attacked by a bird—which is destined to be the parasite's next host. That deosnt make them more evil. They are such by design.

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@Mandale Certainly--we are 99% in agreement.
These entities--and they are legion of many spectra and species--survive and thrive of our suffering, negativity and hate.

Look into--Zoroastrianism/Zacharia Sitchen/Nephilim/Arkons/Gnosticism/Jesui ts--too many to name. But they give a lot better account on the matter and its philosophy.

Addressing your last point:

"it is implied that the invocation itself grants automatic protection against any evil act. Hence the prevalence and supremacy of the name of Christ over evil. Kind of like the silver cross on vampires."


No, no, no--the point is Christ is Consciousness/light/love/presence/truth/ order/creation/enlightenment. You can invoke Buddah or allah or Krishna and Kali/Shiva--the 8-armed b**ch out in fronta CERN...so long as you're tapping into those energies/frequencies/vibrations/dimensio ns--then they cannot possess you and own/feed off of your soul.
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@Bread&Circuses BTW, Jordan B. Peterson has a most profound lecture series on the Bible. Very astute meta-analysis thereof--genius!! !! !! It's on YouTube and most podcasts carriers (SoundClouud, etc.,....)

Bloody well PARADIGM SHIFTING!! !! !!

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@Tamperer71 I am most familiar, love that guy. He was even on Life, Liberty and Levin once. BTW Life, Liberty and Levin is on top of the hour this week.

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@Bread&Circuses Indeed, yes yes yes--you remind me of my reading about Hitlerry's University (was it?) thesis based on Alinsky--never mind that it has hence become the Democratic Playbook.

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@Tamperer71 Indeed, her thesis praise him and his ideas. . .

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Furthermore



Background information

"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday." --Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky


Obama helped fund 'Alinsky Academy': "The Woods Fund, a nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy.... Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization.... 'Midwest describes itself as 'one of the nation's oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.'... Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing."
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1,000 pardons


Aforementioned cited from RULES FOR RADICALS SAUL ALINSKY 1971

Acknowledgement to @BREAD& CIRCUSES (Thanks again)

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Want to tell me who took the 'picture' or drawing of Satan that is the basis for this theory?

For cripes sake....
IF ever there was a PRINCE OF LIES...he's in the White House right now.
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@ThomasinaPaine ........................................ ....THE HORSES ARE ON THE TRACK----------
AND THEY'RE OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go TP, yasssssssssssssssssssssssssss

My God woman--it's obviously a UNIVERSAL ARCHETYPE B'HUSSEIN'O INCARNATES AS IN BEELZEBUB'S BIDDINGS--MANIFEST IN OUR ZEITGEIST'S ARCHETYPES...

tp--again I ask--did you even read the article???? And if so--where is the perforation in WORLD TRUTH'S thesis????



You keep spouting without evidence--girrrrrrrl--don't cry wolf--no one will heed WHEN YOU ACTUALLY STUMBLE ACROSS A POINT OF VALIDITY, bless your heart.--they enumerate a long list of evidence attesting to the PROWESS OF THE CURRENT LORD OF THE FLIES


What's the "D" signify in SMDH----Dizzy or Dementia???
oh OH oh Dear,.....


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@Tamperer71 Ok I'm done with you.

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@ThomasinaPaine ....................................P' raise Jesus!!!!!!!

IN ALL JESUS' GLORY

YOU KNOW, tp, you may have THE CHRIST as your avatar--however the similarity ends there.

BUT JESUS I LOSE BRAIN CELLS TRYING TO HAVE A MODICUM OF RATIONAL CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
i TOO AM DONE; i sincerely DON't like in myself that which barks back at your b**ch...but Jesus Christ--do you hear yourself?


Do you acknowledge at all the consensus of 99% of your comments' replies from others????

I pray for you---now, NURSING HOME CHATTER IS PERMANENTLY CLOSED.

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@ThomasinaPaine NURSE! NURSE! She's out of bed again!!

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@Tamperer71 "they enumerate a long list of evidence attesting to the PROWESS OF THE CURRENT LORD OF THE FLIES"

If one is to be fair, the long list of evidence doesnt really prove anything other than that flies exist. And if one is to be judged by his encounters with a certain species of insect, then I would certainly be the Lord of the Mosquitoes smiley

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@Mandale Notwithstanding--he's our first closeted gay president, with uncountable aliases and on par in lies and machinations to his resume and results as the KILL-Klintons.

If you don't realize the mass murders, unprecedented domestic and global surveillance and selling out American National Sovereignty--well at least the flies have the good sense to smell the utter bullsh*t emanating off of B'Hussein'O.

And I haven't even mentioned THE FIRST TRANNIE.

If these aren't MALEVOLENTLY Satanic Tactics then HEIL SATAN!!

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@Tamperer71 I was under the impression that James Buchanan Jr was the first closeted gay president.

In regards to the lies and machinations, please show me ONE politician, from any political side who has been truthful about their achievements.

As for the "mass murders, unprecedented domestic and global surveillance and selling out American National Sovereignty", the first two conditions identify pretty much any nation on earth. The selling out of the sovereignty I am not clear at all. Could you elaborate on this?

BTW, who is the first trannie?

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@Mandale NAFTA, PTP, PAN-AMERICAN UNION--bringing us one step closer to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, URANIUM ONE, SELLING OFF LAND/UTILITY AND MUNICIPAL RIGHTS OF U. S. STATES AND THEIR OPERATIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO FOREIGN PLAYERS AND ENTITIES. The United States went up for sale to the highest bidder under Barry--or whatever the f**k he goes by these days...all hush-hush and quietly passed and ratified by all domestic branches. This is all just off the top of my head.

Hello, "michelle obama"--formerly a biological male college linebacker before inserting his saline sacks.
Joan Rivers was murdered for outing them publicly--she dared and went a bit too far (God rest her soul); myriad videos on YouTube explicitly point this out.

The beautiful "daughters" were actually borrowed from their campaign entourage members--a certain power couple in their inner circle at the time. If scrutinized, Sasha & Maleia are Dead-Ringers for this couple.
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@Tamperer71 Well, I am going to have to correct you here as your assumption is based on erroneous information. NAFTA, PTP, PAN-AMERICAN UNION were all based on the foreign policy model of interventionism championed by the US since the end of WWII. If we are talking about globalism, then the technological innovation and market domination was initiated by the US. The regional trade agreements that followed were always favouring the US over its trading partners. Other nations followed suit with their own trade agreements to effectively compete against the trading blocs established by the US and which were designed from the outset to dominate the geographical and product markets.

Then you are suggesting that the foreign investments on critical infrastructures constitute a sell out of sovereignty. That simply isnt so as the critical infrastructure sector, or any industrial sector for that matter, is not ruled by sovereignty issues. If you are talking about effective control, even in the case where we are talking about majority holdings, there are clauses within any critical infrastructure agreement that revert control back to the state in cases of national emergencies, wars, natural disasters and so on. So again this is inapplicable as a justification. In any case, if you have a look at the nationalities of the foreign investors, you will discover that the overwhelming majority are Canadians and British. Hardly enemies of the nation.
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@Mandale You have some interesting, if not credible points.

I'm talking about Chinese and Saudi investors--haven't really heard at all about Canadian & British Samaritans, as such in our national infrastructure investment.

Aristotle's theory may have germinated the marxists--but those crypto-jooz weren't even Russian Nationals.

Aristotle also wrote the allegory of the cave--per which you insist on only description the shadows before you.

All your arguments sound pretty and slick sinned as official versions.

As with the majority of credible conspiracy theories that have meted out through objective history--you seem incapable of recognizing the actual underpinnings of the power dynamics/forces and stalwart philosophies in actual play here.

Snaps for tenacity in arguing for the power structures that be--be to oppress all mankind that is.

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@Tamperer71 Well, if we go into the Chinese and Saudis then we shouldnt even be talking about critical infrastructures. Currently the Chinese hold the monopoly on rare earth materials which are the basis of the entire computer industry. Not to even mention their economical grasp on the US dollar. If they wished they could crush the US economy with a click of a button. Then you have the Saudis who effectively control the real hard currency, the oil. They also could threaten directly the US and, come to think of it they did so recently on the Khashoggi murder where they threatened to increase the price of oil by 200% if the US didnt drop the criticism of the affair. And guess what, the criticism was dropped the very next minute.

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@Mandale What an incredibly sanitized and naive view. After all our chatter--you still doubt the actual forces that control, engineer and finally decide Mankinds fate. Recall the Arkons and the actual spiritual war going at all times beyond our rudimentary and strictly limited perceptions.

You're not taking into account suppressed and secretly ferreted and coveted technology, history, anthropology, archaeology and other information stolen from humanity.

Andrew(?not sure of first name) Dulles of Lockheed Skunkworks admitted off the record...that"anything you can imagine they have already got the engineering thereof.

Ever heard of Breakaway Civiliization?
Delta Force? Underground MEGALOPOLISES? sPACE bASES AND FASTER than light travel--time-travel even.

That's the true underpinning of the invisible hand that actually moves sanitized history along.

My ethos is to run from those who purport to have the answer and run toward those who are still seeking. There's a far bigger picture you appear to not see.
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@Tamperer71 It may be naive and sanitized but at least its a realistic approach. I dont doubt the existence of Aliens, or the bases like Dulce and the underground highways. I have seen a UFO and I know what I saw. So if they exist, its within the realm of possibility that they could have one or more bases around.

The problem with your supposition is that you entirely write off Mankind as cattle to the slaughter. History has shown us repeatedly the opposite. Mankind is not as pliable as you suggest. And definitely not afraid of the odds against it. How many times in history have we seen David and Goliath moments where primitive tribes and nations, by comparison to their opponents, annihilated the opposition through sheer power of will and perseverance? Take the supremacy of man versus nature. Man has conquered everything on the planet. It has become the absolute predator with no natural enemy capable of standing up. Even nature doesnt stand a chance, despite all the natural disasters, viruses and everything it has thrown against mankind. And the rape of natural resources still goes on. So what makes you think that mankind will go down without a fight?
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@Mandale 1,000 pardons if you think I don't respect your opinion--I wouldn't protract these debates if I didn't respect your opinings. It just frustrates me to no end when the sheeple refuse to open up to higher consciousness--you tell me, are YOU in and of that herd--THE CULT OF THE BLUE PILL.....?

The undeniable fact is that when you seek with your heart and actually work toward consciousness elevations--THE TRUTH YOU DAMN WELL DO FIND AND GOD (OR WHATEVER THE MULTIVERSAL ETERNAL CONSCIOUSNESS IS)--ACTUALLY THROWS EASTER EGGS OF OBJECTIVE REALITY YOUR WAY--i speak from first hand account. My frustration is that you defend their propaganda/programming/mind-control/indoctrination and justifications in enslavement of the human race.

But our alien engineers are bloody well still walking around--concealed and incognito when they do so--do forgive--but again I must delineate your dirth of imagination. BY VERY VIRTUE OF THE UNIVERSE BEING INFINITE AND THE REALITY OF "MULTIVERSE" ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING IMAGINABLE EXISTS SOMEWHERE IN THAT REALM--AND THROUGH GLITCHES IN THE MATRIX--CROSSES OVER INTO OUR REALM. I'm not even opening up the can of worms that the probability of our existence by virtue of simulation is far more likely fact than not.
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@Tamperer71 I realize you get carried away by your passion. The only reason I made a reference that at times your conduct is touch and go on disrespect, is precisely to make you aware of it. And the fact that we do continue the discussion is a testament to respect on both sides.

Now, if you dont mind, I will use some of your arguments against your own arguments (its a lawyer thing, it comes naturally smiley )

You make reference to "consciousness elevations" and "objective reality" in the same sentence, suggesting that one is the product of the other. The terminology you used however indicates precisely the opposite. Modern psychological approaches to understanding consciousness include developmental, social, and neuropsychological; each contribute a different understanding of what consciousness might be. As such, "Consciousness elevations" suggests that in every step of elevation, your perception of reality changes. Another factor would undoubtedly be the level of intelligence. One cannot put in the same perception matrix Homer Simpson and Nicola Tesla. So, I am wondering how can the process of reaching what you call "objective reality" through a series of levels of subjective realities, qualify the end result as objective?
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@Tamperer71 And another point I forgot to make. If we are talking about the surrender of sovereignty being the surrender of political influence in the world order, then the current administration is certainly the culprit behind this with their deviation from the long and historical model of foreign intervention and changing the model of foreign policy to isolationism. That amounts to a significant loss of political influence abroad, which directly affects trade relations and by result the economy of the US in the long run.

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@Mandale Bologne

We've been carrying and paying for europe, israel, nato & the middle east for way too long.

We've also been bastardized and economically prostituted by China without measure as well.

Once I recognized these facts, I went from abhorring Trump to a partial outright supporter of Trump. not to say he can't be wrong or an a***ole at times, many, many times.

The only political influence we ever had abroad is that which we either brought or usurped--thems the facts in the final analysis jacks...

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@Tamperer71 I think you have your facts reversed here. The US doesnt pay for anyone. The US gets paid for their protection. The US pays/bribes to maintain political systems compatible and favorable to their own set of ideals to dictate trade terms. That is how foreign intervention works.

By withdrawing from that principle, you only move the sphere of influence back to the national borders of the US. That creates a significant security risk as there is no buffer zone and thus no advance warning. Europe and the rest realize that in the war on terror, they are only collateral casualties. Whats to say that by declaring their neutrality in that war, the security risk to the US will not increase 100 fold? All the money that has been paid for that buffer zone would have to be multiplied to beef up the security of the US.

Not to even mention the negative trade offs in relation to the trade, the basis of the US economy, and the trading routes and partners that need protecting. Essentially you would need the 6th fleet as a permanent escort to bulk carriers throughout their journeys.
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@Mandale Well you make some valid points that may still barely be extant--but all bets are off once AI overtakes the military industrial complex.

Take Germany for example. They've got minimal military guard as we've got a base there with 5,000 active troops. In effect, we're paying for their Socialist sytem, at least in great part. And that can be said for dozens of nations we have bases in--certainly with ulterior motives on our part--and those deployments aren't going anywhere. As for the engineered climate crisis--it's a subterfuge to stifle addressing the actual war on Gaia we have been waging since the industrial revolution--not carbon but pollution and raping and razing of the land and flora and fauna and fishes in the sea. Carbon taxes will primarily fall on the US as we overpay and China and India continues their business as usual without financial consequence.
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@Tamperer71 I Actually agree on most of your points. The climate change I disagree, but this isnt an item I am interested in debating. The war on terror however is entirely manufactured. Or at least it can be viewed as a project with unintended consequences, which nevertheless does manage to still feed the requirements of the military industrial complex. As for the 9/11, I used to work for aviation safety. I know perfectly well the limits of aeronautical engineering and will call BS on the official version of events, at least on the aviation related part.

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@Mandale I'm down to debate this AFTER you've watched LOOSE CHANGE (revised/updated).

f^ck man--I've even heard that they may well have used (NANOTHERMITE FOR DAMN WELL CERTAIN) nuclear detonations--what with the fires burning for months--NEVER BEFORE IN RECORDED HISTORY HAS SUCH A SHAM BEEN PULLED OVER THE PLANET; nuclear would go a long way in explaining the 9/11 medical syndrome and post 9/11 deaths from being around ground zero. DEVASTATINGLY DISGUSTINGLY CONTEMPTIBLE: 1-GOOGLEPLEX OF ETERNITIES IN HELL TO ALL THE PLAYERS AND ENGINEERS OF THIS FIRST FALSE FLAG OF THE MILLENNIUM . aMON~rA....

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@Tamperer71 Ehhhh....WHAT? Should we call an ambulance?

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@Adrian88 Bridge Troll be gone!!


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@Mandale The rationale given for maintaining US Troops in Germany is that it would shut down the supermarkets and other cottage industries supporting the troops accustomed lifestyles; you better believe after that justification, the question was never addressed again. Everything presented is a lie which makes it close to impossible to glean any Easter Eggs of truth.

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@Tamperer71 I am afraid you lost me here. I lived in Germany for 9 years and I can tell you for a fact, that they dont need the money from the troops stationed there. On any given sunny sunday, you see so many Ferraris and Lamborghinis that you no longer get impressed by their sight. Spotting an exotic car in Germany is reduced to spotting a VW. smiley

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@Mandale Listen, I can't explain away their moronic bullsh*t machinations--I'm relaying what the pentagon communication was with Germany/about Germany when asked to give a justification as to whyTF we still have 5,000 troops there.

Nobody said any of this was fact--just repeating the official version; alas you seem to cling to OFFICIAL VERSIONS far too much without question.

QUESTION EVERYTHING

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@Mandale smiley smiley My ole friend i admire your patience,lol

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@Tamperer71 Thats soooo true Tamperer71. Basically our whole industry is based on cottage home manufacturing. And the poor children are sooooo thankful in Winter time that Big GI Joe buys in their lil cottage shops.

MAAAAAAAAAn Where THE FUCK are you LIVING!!!

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@Tamperer71 And with all due respect to YOUR first lady "Michelle"--even before I learned of all the facts pointing to his transsexualism--MY HAND TO THE BIBLE--SOMETHING IN THE BACK OF MY MIND ALWAYS HAD dissonance as to what a very extraordinarily well-built and masculine linebacker of a powerful and robust [vigorously clears his throat] "lady" "SHE" presents. If you seriously were never of that mind--even glancingly--then my dear man, I must seriously question your powers of observation--never mind gut intuition, instinct and I'll even venture to say critical thinking. Michael (your "Michelle") was on unabashed display ON THE ELLEN SHOW (advocating and popularizing physical exercise) with Ellen and audience participation in the physical exertion demo.: MICHAEL'S VERY WELL ENDOWED COCK WAS SWINGING LIKE A PENDULUM IN HIS LIGHT COLORED TROUSERS. ...
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@Tamperer71 So you mean to say that Michelle Obama, the First Lady, with free access to the most advanced medical tech in the world, would jeopardize her husband's image and presidency by undergoing half of the transition required from male to female? That she would bother to to undergo the hormonal treatment, the Thyroid cartilage reduction surgery (which would definitely make hers the most successful one in medical history as the Adam's Apple has entirely disappeared), but would get cheap on the removal of the ding dong? Is that what you are suggesting? Does this sound logical to you?

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@Mandale Watch the videos on youTube then you tell me--the truth doesn't require your belief to exist. You argue my points but don't get off your ass long enough to research where I direct you. I'm pointing you toward actual evidence yet you still want to debate the fine points of your conjecture. This is why I lose it debating with you--I'm not about to go research it for you and present it on a silver platter.

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@Tamperer71 I am sorry but it doesnt work like that. When you make an allegation, the burden of proof is on you to prove its veracity and not on me to disprove it from the get go. In any case, I did check the video you were referring but I am afraid I cant spot a ding dong where you say it is. So unless you present me with the evidence you claim is actual, I cant take this seriously. If you were referring to the wrinkles of the pants, then that would give Ellen an enormous Ding Dong, putting black men to shame everywhere smiley

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@Mandale What's the skinny on James Buchanan Jr? This is the first I'm hearing...

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@ThomasinaPaine You know, that little link directly underneath the POST'S TITLE/HEADING--if you click on it, the WORLD WIDE WEB takes you--in all actuality--TO THE SOURCE OF THIS VERY ARTICLE.



One day you may even want to try it out for yourself,....Oh Dear TP.....here we go again....

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@ThomasinaPaine I wasnt aware the guys are THAT batsh*t crazy....lol a tunnel from the White house to hell...Incredible

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@Adrian88 Nobody said TO HELL--just underground bases, tunnels and cities.


Wow I envy your self-assuredness and confidence with not one citable source to back up your TROLLING.


Put up credible evidence or STFU...

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@Tamperer71 ehhh. a citable source for what?
that you are batsh*t crazy? hmm..Maybe we take a look at your last stay in psychiatry? you would need to agree first, of course

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@Adrian88 Here we have a MEETING OF THE MINDS BTW. @ T P & @ 88--alas 2 neurons betwixt 2 heads STILL does not a coherent or fact-based thought make...tisk-tisk

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How stupid of me to forget: When arguing with an idiot--to an outsider, it's difficult to say who the idiot actually is......my bad

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@Tamperer71 Thats the attitude my dear! losing your marbles is not a stigma any more...you will get better!! good luck

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At the bitter end, try as one might--you just can't sugar coat sh*t.

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NURSE! NURSE! She's out of her bed again.....oh NO!!!!!! tp...


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why do the ones that are blocked or have me blocked posting here. Trolls smiley

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@1FRAC1 Leave nothing to the inane NON-ENTITIES. Their own nonsense and silly attempts at throwing rocks are just whimpering antifa-infancy tactics. I no longer either address nor answer their gibbering prattle.

Really they just give credence and power to expository truth and light over dark and ignorance. Give them opportunity and they will cannibalize themselves--just stand back and watch

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obama is just a pathetic puppet. soros and hellory look amazingly similar and are the doers of evil. Fuck the Black pope as well as the puppet pope

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Just a pointy of [email protected], aka TP, SADLY--UNFRIENDED ME OVER THIS POST--THEN HAS THE NERVE TO BLOODY WELL MESSAGE ME---here's how it went down--lookie (ROTFLMFAO!! !! !!


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Please stop messaging me. I don't adhere to your conspiracy theories. Saul Alinsky 'playbook' as you call it is far more reflective of rightwing bullsh*t than a liberal point of view. Seriously. STOP.
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Listen DEAR--I haven't addressed you in the slightest since you unfriended me after I melted your snowflake and OUCHED YOUR LITTLE FEELIES. Furthermore--YOU QUIT INGRATIATING YOUR OVERZEALOUS TAIL-THUMPING. NO BODY WITH 2 MARBLES IN THEIR NOGGEN IS INTERESTED TP Ancient Russian Proverb says--certain congenital (brain) defects are corrected only but by the grave....IGNORANT bit#ch with blind eyes purposely averted. I PRAY THIS OUR LAST COMMUNIQUE EVER--I LOSE BRAIN CELLS CORRESPONDING WITH THAT OF YOUR ILK. JUST EW....No, thank YOU.... ...

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